Letters to the Editor: February 15, 2017

Vote Cavanaugh for mayor

Editor:

Why vote for a politician that tells a community “A promise given is a promise broken”? That is what Mayor Lord told the residents of Wade Acres a few months ago when meeting with her and other council members about a situation facing the neighborhood. The statement was made not once, but multiple times throughout the community meeting. Wally Campbell, councilmember, told those of us who lived on Wade Lane that we didn’t even have a right to talk at the meeting. Wade Lane must use 161st Ave as the exit onto Van Buren—not sure why our voice didn’t count.

A non-profit situated at the entrance of our neighborhood was requesting to change the agreement made years ago about the egress onto our neighborhood street—the only street into the neighborhood. As far as Mayor Lord and some of the other council members were concerned, we needed to grow up with the times and change our lifestyle to accommodate the desires of the nonprofit. I was shocked, as were my neighbors, at the treatment received and the belief that promises (agreements) made were no longer viable.

As a father, grandfather, and a veteran, I am disillusioned with the city governmental process and lack of commitment to the community displayed by Mayor Lord, Wally Campbell, and others. My father, (retired veteran), three brothers (two of them retired military), and I served this country with pride and honor. This is not the type of treatment expected from elected governmental officials towards the citizens of Goodyear.

Goodyear needs leadership that respects its citizens. Vote for Jim Cavanaugh for mayor.

Robert Robinson
Goodyear

 

Not my president

Editor:

Just one hour into office and he already shafted one group of people, the first time buyers of homes, took thier premiums of $500.00 away.

That’s almost as bad as your other Republican hero, Doug Ducey giving the teachers a $2.07 raise, let me see what you can buy for that much money, a yacht, a new car, no you can buy a stick of gum.

Thank Republicans for making our lives miserable.

I’m sure your imbecile leaders will screw up more things in our lives later on.

Some people call him the Twitter president, I call him the paranoid Republican.

Now this ding dong is going to make the American people pay for the wall.

Thank you Republicans.

You sure know how to do stupid things.

Alfred Molina
Tonopah

 

Debacle on McDowell

Editor:

Okay, City of Avondale. You’ve had SEVEN months to reconfigure McDowell from Avondale Boulevard to the Agua Fria bridge. Why it should take that long to complete a half-mile stretch of road (the project is now past the date of completion), I haven’t the slightest idea. I’m thinking about sending a bill to city hall for all of the time I’ve wasted waiting in long lines on this stretch since June. Time is UP.

Scott Stevens
Avondale

 

If it’s broke … (EC3)

Editor:

In Federalist Paper #68, Hamilton stated that the Electoral College was “almost the only part” of the proposed Constitution to escape severe objection, and was even tepidly approved by the Constitution’s opponents. That’s rather ironic, since almost from the start its defects were revealed, and it was the first part of the Constitution to undergo a major overhaul! (The Bill of Rights was more an addition to than a change of the Constitution.)

At first it worked perfectly, but only because Washington was the candidate, and he received 100% of the Electoral Vote. (The only President to do so.) But after him came Adams, and the flaws in the system began to manifest. You see, originally the person with the most Electoral Votes became President, and the runner-up became Vice-President. Thus President Adams was stuck with his political opponent, Jefferson, as his V.P.! (Just imagine a President Trump with a Vice-President Clinton.)

But in the next election, things really went to hell. Adams came in third, but Jefferson was tied with his running mate (Aaron Burr). The matter ended up in Congress, where (after much horse trading) Hamilton threw his support behind Jefferson. You see, much as the two were political opponents, while Hamilton disliked Jefferson he loathed Burr! (We all know how that story ended.)

Small wonder, then, that the decision was made to change how Presidents were chosen, and the 12th Amendment was born (replacing Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, Second Paragraph). Without discussing the whole thing, it basically required separate ballots for President and Vice-President, and a majority vote for either office. While this still could have produced a President serving with an opposition Vice-President, at least it prevented the possibility of a President’s running-mate becoming President instead. (As almost happened with Burr.)

More to come.

Gordon P.R. Posner
Tolleson

 

Obama’s harm to the nation

Editor:

In your Feb. 1st edition Mr. Azzarello writes Obama “did more harm to the nation than any other one person”.

Perhaps he never attended a memorial service for any of the more than 4400 patriots who needlessly lost their lives in Iraq due to the totally incompetent occupant of the White House at the time. I have.

Just my opinion of who did “more harm”.

Roger Vallie
Goodyear

 

We will be worse off

Editor:

Do some of you out there really think we’ll be a whole lot better off in the future. There is so much more hate out there than just a year ago. The racism is so much more out there. It makes me sick to my stomach. If you a so brainwashed that you think a group of billionaires have you’re best interest in mind you will sone find out at our expense. I’ll bet not one of them have ever pumped their own gas, bought groceries, made a car payment or mortgage payment. The list goes on and on.

Even with more jobs only enough money will be given to the middle class to barely keep their heads above water. There are a few employers out there that will do a outstanding job taking care of the employees. Just like Bernie said that the upper 10% control 90% of the wealth. I predict that in 20 or less years the number will be a lot more that 90%. It’s all about greed and nothing else. I’ll bet nothing will be done to improve the education system except to privatize it and make it for profit. There will be assistance programs cut off and a lot of our elderly will be put out on the street while we build more bombs. I challenge only of you to write down how much you have in savings, including you’re 401k and in 4 years time see if it has improved any along with you’re outlook on you’re future and you’re kids future. I hope that I’m wrong, but I don’t think so. Those big boys are going to bleed this country dry. they could care less about the little guy.

Al Krupp
Goodyear

 

Cavanaugh for mayor

Editor:

After attending a candidates forum sponsored by the Pebble Creek Republican club, and hearing all the participants presentations, I am endorsing Jim Cavanaugh for Goodyear mayor. The man has a very sharp mind. He reminded me that I had written a negative letter about him years ago after he quit in the middle of his previous term. Well that was then and this is now. Since that time Cavanaugh has done a lot of introspection . I believe him when he said he was wrong and now he is asking the voters for a second opportunity to once again serve Goodyear . I believe in giving second chances . He has renewed vigor and energy. I really believe he can make a positive difference for Goodyear.

As far as city council is concerned Goodyear must keep both Joe Pizzillo and Wally Campbell. Those two council members are a treasure with a wealth of experience and good judgment. I do not believe you can find better city council members anywhere in the valley THOSE TWO ARE KEEPERS !

I am also impressed with Brannon Hampton for the other open council seat. He is far and away better than the two remaining city council candidates . So in summation the winning ticket is Cavanaugh, Pizzillo, Campbell and Hampton.

Roy Azzarello
Goodyear

 

Water bill fiasco continues

Editor:

Read the piece by your reporter. If he would ask permission to access the facebook account Buckeye committee against high water bills he would see that residents still have problems.

Why did the Salvation Army pay for my high water bills over a year plus ago. Bill was $300.00. At that time I was told that there quite a few requests being made for high water bills to be paid by Salvation Army.

How much has the town collected in errors over the past two years and only now wish to refund a few dollars to customers?

Cindy Howard
Buckeye

 

Editor should be commended

Editor:

Editor Cary Hines’ recent editorial on the Women’s March was loudly rebuked the following week to no one’s surprise because she dared to offer a personal perspective outside the trending narrative in media/social media. She is to be commended for giving a voice to the women who see things from another point of view, and in honoring diversity of opinion.

Laura Kaino
Goodyear

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A response to this inane Comment can be found on the webpage for the next issue: http://www.westvalleyview.com/comment/25990#comment-25990

OK Gordon, name calling aside, truthfully do you really believe that the average WVV reader really understands what you are saying, what points you are trying to make without consulting a dictionary, a copy of the Declaration of Independence a copy of the Constitution , an Ametican history book and God knows what else. ? If you want to resonate with the reader . This can only be done by taking off your attorney hat and putting on your Everyman outfit .That is what I do and the readers either love me or hate me. With you ten years later the readers are still trying to figure out who you are . If you reply to this post please try to to do without calling me names. I realize it will be tough but I think you can do it .

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Dear Factless Wonder:

   Well, if one assumes that said reader is as thoughtless, ignorant, and shallow as you are, then you're correct.  But, obviously, I'm not talking to such people.  You can go on living in your fantasyland, completely ignoring what I write.  But let me repeat, if it's too much trouble for you (and said readers) to bother "consulting a dictionary, a copy of the Declaration of Independence a copy of the Constitution , an Ametican [sic] history book and God knows what else" then just don't call yourselves "patriots"!

   A true Patriot wants to know the Principles this nation was truly founded on, the Law it follows, and the History of both.  "Summer soldiers, and sunshine patriots" only care about their mindless partisanship and brainless ideology.  (And that's true whether they are of the "left" or the "right".)

   So, run away child, I'm talking to the adults in the room!

P.S. - I'll stop calling you names the day you stop.  But as long as you're going to lie and call people you disagree with "subversives" (comparing them to viruses), then the names you're called are richly deserved.

OK Gordon, name calling aside, truthfully do you really believe that the average WVV reader really understands what you are saying, what points you are trying to make without consulting a dictionary, a copy of the Declaration of Independence a copy of the Constitution , an Ametican history book and God knows what else. ? If you want to resonate with the reader . This can only be done by taking off your attorney hat and putting on your Everyman outfit .That is what I do and the readers either love me or hate me. With you ten years later the readers are still trying to figure out who you are . If you reply to this post please try to to do without calling me names. I realize it will be tough but I think you can do it .

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OK Gordon, name calling aside, truthfully do you really believe that the average WVV reader really understands what you are saying, what points you are trying to make without consulting a dictionary, a copy of the Declaration of Independence a copy of the Constitution , an Ametican history book and God knows what else. ? If you want to resonate with the reader . This can only be done by taking off your attorney hat and putting on your Everyman outfit .That is what I do and the readers either love me or hate me. With you ten years later the readers are still trying to figure out who you are . If you reply to this post please try to to do without calling me names. I realize it will be tough but I think you can do it .

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Dear Factless Wonder:

   Knock it off.  I'm the one who's supposed to be long-winded.  Get your own shtick! wink

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Dear Mr. Krupp:

   While I share your concerns about this particular group of "billionaires", I can't subscribe to your cynicism about all billionaires (or rich people in general).  Some can truly see beyond their privilege and power, and have the "common touch".  Others merely claim and pretend to.  The key, of course, is that their actions speak louder than their words.  Which is why I share your fears.

   But never forget such wealthy leaders who did help people.  Presidents Teddy Roosevelt and FDR, JFK, LBJ, and Governors like Nelson Rockefeller of New York.  (You can add your own examples.)  Also consider the good Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have done (again, there are others).  Being wealthy doesn't make one a "villain".  What one does with that wealth (or doesn't do) is what counts.

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Dear Ms. Kaino:

   Ah, the argument of the Trumpsters in the "Post-Factual" age we live in.

   Sorry, madam, but despite what the "Factless Wonder" maintains, all opinions are not created equal!  Those based on fact and reason deserve respect.  Those which are not, especially those contrary to fact and reason, deserve scorn.

   As many have pointed out (including yours truly) Ms. Hine's tirade was filled with errors (some might call them lies), and her "logic" was non-existent.  Maybe if you spent more time reading the Letters criticizing her, instead of just mindlessly reacting to them, you might learn something.

   But then, Trumpsters have no interest in learning about anything, least of all reality!

P.S. - On the off chance you might read this Comment and want to see what I wrote about that Editorial, here are a few links.  (Although, they're actually replies to what other people wrote, much of what I said applies to the Editorial too.)

http://www.westvalleyview.com/comment/25956#comment-25956

http://www.westvalleyview.com/comment/25963#comment-25963

http://www.westvalleyview.com/comment/25954#comment-25954

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Dear Factless Wonder:

   I'm sure the many people tired of reading your relentless, paranoid, ludicrous, and completely erroneous rants is far greater than those tired of my "pedantry".  If you were truly the "patriot" you pretend to be, you might try reading those Federalist Papers, and learn how wrong you are on a great many things.

   But then, those "pedantic" Founders could never just manage 140 characters at a time (about all your attention span allows).  You see, back then instead of Social Media, Bumper Stickers, and Sound Bites, they believed in honest and informed discussion; something you're incapable of!

P.S. - But, to employ one of your standard rhetorical devices, please keep hurling abuse instead of sound reasoning (or facts).  Every time you do so I'm reassured that I'm "on the right track", because I've obviously "touched a nerve"!

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   Along with my past two Letters about the Electoral College I provided additional material and further sources.  Not this time.  Why?  Because the matters discussed are easily researched by anyone who cares about History, and accuracy.  (That leaves out the Factless Wonder, of course.)

   There are articles on Wikipedia one can review (as an introduction), and plenty of books on the subject of the election of 1800 (when Burr almost became President).

Another pedantic letter from the pedantic know it all of the west valley . I would bet that at least 95 percent of the readers do not have the slightest idea what the Federalist papers are . How many of the readers read the first couple of words and skip to the next letter . Gordon continues to practice law or teach a history class in the letters section of theWVV . When Gordon ends the letter " more to come " I am sure all the readers will be in agony for two weeks waiting for the next boring, boring boring letter. NOT !

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   Just noticed my Reply to this piece of tripe somehow landed in the wrong place here.  This is a link to it: http://www.westvalleyview.com/comment/25979#comment-25979

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