Letters to the Editor: July 19, 2017

Contact representative about health care

Editor:

I’m writing in response to a recent letter about Medicare and Obama’s “super-secret hidden rules” to block people from care. Obama is out of power. As president, he expanded Medicare/Medicaid benefits. All his actions support his stated belief that health care is a right. The current Congress will be changing Medicare, Medicaid and the ACA. People using these programs should be worried about candidates who are supported by the Koch brothers and other big-money donors who don’t believe in these programs. Wild conspiracy theories may allow you to keep loving candidates who could harm you, but they also allow your health care to be taken away without a fight. Forget the rumors about secret plots. Contact your representative and tell them what you want done on health care.

Karla Thompson
Avondale
 

PebbleCreek is paradise

 

Editor:

After reading Mr. Banning’s article about problems in PebbleCreek, I felt compelled to respond. I have lived in PebbleCreek for eight years and find the community to be a virtual paradise. Even though I don’t play golf or pickleball, at no time have I felt like a second-class citizen. In fact, it’s just the opposite. I feel like I live in a five-star resort with all the amenities. 

There are more than 150 clubs and organizations to join. I don’t know where Banning is coming from. Perhaps he has not taken advantage of all the community has to offer. I find the community to be full of kind, compassionate, caring people. PebbleCreek has a proven record as one of the safest communities in the Valley. The crime rate is nonexistent. Accidents due to careless driving are next to zero. The two that I know of were due to the driver having a stroke and losing control. The security patrol does an excellent job of keeping the community safe. On most days, the streets are virtually empty. There is no traffic problem, let alone epidemic of careless drivers. The speed limit of 25 miles per hour is monitored with electric signs that are strategically placed throughout the community. With an approval rate of 93 percent by its residents, perhaps Mr. Banning would be happier living somewhere else. If he sells, he will find his home is already worth more than what he paid, testimony to the excellent and well-deserved reputation PebbleCreek enjoys. 

David Wilson
Goodyear
 

Truman still rings true

 

Editor:

The more things change, the more they stay the same. No one has said it better than “Give ‘em Hell, Harry” some 65 years ago.

“Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home, but not for housing. They are strong for labor, but are stronger for restricting laborers’ rights. They favor minimum wage; the smaller the minimum wage, the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all, but they won’t spend money for teachers or schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine – for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing, but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think Americans’ standard of living is a fine thing, so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire the government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.” – Harry S. Truman

When will we stop voting against our interests and start voting for those who will stand with and for us?

Eileen Fein
Goodyear
 

PebbleCreek’s activities are abundant

 

Editor:

This is in response to Ginny Boyle and Jackson Banning’s articles regarding PebbleCreek’s so-called problems. By the way, I could not find them in our published residence listings so don’t know if they really live in PebbleCreek or they have elected not to be part of the community.

I am curious why they moved into PebbleCreek after reading their complaints. Golf and pickleball are, by far, the largest sport clubs in the community, but there are seven other sport clubs. If you are not into sports, perhaps your interests might be in the 25 card and game clubs, the 13 creative arts clubs, the 15 interest and hobby clubs, the six performing arts clubs, 12 service clubs or the 10 social clubs. 

There are two fitness centers with up-to-date equipment and great aerobic and exercise classes pretty much every day. This includes two resort-type pools with lap pools and various water sports activities. 

Our activities center schedules various bus trips to events and games outside the community and state, local theme dances, entertainment events at our theater of popular artists and education events with experts in that field.

We have two fine restaurants and lounges that sponsor various food theme nights with occasional entertainment. We even have a karaoke night every week, where we meet new residents and make new friends. This may sound like a sales pitch, but we have been involved more than 14 years in over 20 of these activities. So, if you would like to shake off that second-class citizen feeling, I suggest that you scroll through the PebbleCreek website, find your interests and jump in feet first.

It is amazing to me that a person in PebbleCreek cannot find activities to fill your days other than policing our security and patrol system.

Jim Beyers
Goodyear
 

Azzarello-Posner debate something to watch

 

Editor:

This is in response to Jorge Diaz’s letter from the July 12, 2017, West Valley View. I would pay to see that debate between Roy Azzarello and Mr. Posner, as well. Mr. Posner would win hands down. In fact, I would bet that Roy would end up in the fetal position in the corner at the end. And that is if he would even show up! 

I have read Roy’s letters for years. At first, I would get upset by them, for his constant dribble of ultra-right propaganda. His calling people who did not agree with him “unpatriotic,” was totally out of line. I now just chalk it up to just more right-wing dribble from a man who clearly needs to say, “Once I was blind, but now I see.” Please let us know when the debate will happen. 

Zel Lind
Avondale
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Gordon Posner's picture

   And as further "evidence" that Ms. Hines may not have been responsible, my Letter still hasn't appeared in the current issue (the 26th).  Maybe it got lost in the "ether" and never arrived at the View.

   So, the question is: Do I resend it (now many weeks after the Letter it was in response to), or do I instead respond to the latest example(s) of the Factless Wonder's mindless rantings?  Decisions, decisions.

 

P.S. - And if anyone wonders why I've posted this here instead of in the current issue, it's because (once again) that issue hasn't appeared on the Letters Pages list.  I've just sent the Publisher an e-mail informing him of this, and hopefully the problem will be corrected shortly.  Just another service I provide readers of the View!

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Dear Vickie:

  That's like saying taking a little from Hitler and a little from Stalin will result in "sane, rational, thinking".  No, it won't.

P.S. - And no, I'm not comparing either Roy or myself to them.  They're just clear examples of the flaw in your plan.  While it is true that one should be open to ideas different from one's own, and that in many cases there are two sides to the argument, that isn't always true.  The Earth orbits the Sun, not the other way around.  So you can't "merge" Copernicus" with the Flat Earth Society and get "sane, rational, thinking".  Hence the importance of the two things Roy avoids: facts and reason.

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Dear Factless Wonder:

   My temper is just fine, Mr. Assarello.  Too bad the same can't be said for your brains.  (Assuming you have any.)

 

P.S. - In case it hasn't dawned on you yet, I'll stop mis-spelling your name that way when you stop mis-spelling mine.  It's very simple: there's only one "s" in Posner.

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Dear Factless Wonder:

  I doubt you take anything seriously.

   And you're quite mistaken.  People who make thoughtful, intelligent, and informed arguments will find they get the same from me in reply.  I've even been able to agree with them on occasion.  (Indeed, infrequently to be sure, I've even agreed with you!)

   The problem, sir, is that the vast majority of what you write is just mindless drivel, not only devoid of facts or reason, but usually contrary to both!  When that happens, you indeed have nothing of value to say.  (And I'm not going to engage in "Political Correctness" and pretend otherwise.)

P.S. - I never said Ms. Hines was responsible for the delay in publishing my Letters, only that a delay existed.  Thanks for providing another example of why what you write rarely has any value.

   And as for "crap", that adequately describes most of your work product, which probably explains where your Comments come from!  (Mr. Assarello.)

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   I of course meant to write "and stop them from really thinking about what they were he was saying".  My bad.

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Dear Vickie:

   Though both could be eloquent, I was never impressed with either.  Buckley, for example, loved to show off his vocabulary in order to impress people (and stop them from really thinking about what they were saying).  I longed to tell him that obfuscation is no substitute for ratiocination!  wink

Yesterday President Trump,

addressed the Boy Scouts of American like he was addressing

a Bunch of  Cigar Smoking Buddies. Wonder what their parents thought.

President Washington through Obama, would near , NEAR,

vent like that to that particular group.

Sessons was a proud Eagle Scout , that Trump would not

invite to the gathering of Boy Scouts.  What a small,  mean

man Trump is. Realy though Trump would rise to the Presidency

What we are having to live through with this man, and his family.

Vickie J. Chelini

 

Vickie

What a terrific perspective. Problem is I seriously doubt that Gordon would admit that anyone who disagrees with him on anything had anything of value to say. He complains that Cary Hines would not publish his letters in a timely fashion . She probably did not want to stink up the letters section and that is why she delayed his crap.just saying Possner can be a royal pain in the butt even when he tries to be civil which is not very often !

Temper, temper Mr. Possner !

Maybe a little common ground between Gordon and Roy.

Remember two great minds Buckley and Vidal.

Take opinions from both and it becomes rational thinking.

I take my opinions from both men.

Vickie

P.S.

I have always wanted people to join in the comment 

section, Not scare them off. 

 

Vickie

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