Letters to the Editor - January 25, 2017

We must unite

Editor:

Children must play!! The political display this week coming from the democrats was alarming, and should be alarming to all Americans. It was misfits acting out their aggression and vengeance on the newly elected President Trump. No regard at all for the American and European onlookers, wanting civility and getting actual work done that hasn’t been done in eight years except to spend our tax money. Seniors have had no SSI increase in two years? Our bridges still need fixing? Misfits the lot of them! The message is “Anything goes”, “Break the law!” That’s all we’ve heard from those running off at the mouth Governors, Mayors who have illegal safe havens.

The liberals of today have done a great job! Our elite colleges are full of misfits calling themselves professors. Students are intolerant and ignorant. Those that are the exception are afraid to voice their opinion, because they will be retaliated against.

We have weapons of mass destruction that can wipe all humanity out of existence and you continue down the road to Perdition?? We and the rest of the world are watching, I’m sure sad and disappointed at what they have seen and heard so far. For humanity we must unite.

We must pray to be a united people of all faiths in peace.

Analie Maccree
Goodyear

 

A republic you say? (EC2)

Editor:

Some have claimed we have the Electoral College because America is a republic. Well, yes and no. To understand why that claim is exaggerated and inaccurate, one must know what the word “republic” means, and the history of the College.

The basic principles America was founded on are democratic. “Government of the people, by the people, and for the people” as Lincoln said. Or, as Jefferson put it (in the Declaration of Independence) it is a government deriving its just powers from the consent of the governed.

Now democratic governments can take many forms. Britain, though technically a Monarchy, is actually a democracy, since the government is chosen by the people through their election of Parliament. And, since it’s Parliament which makes the laws, Britain is also a republic.

Ancient Rome was supposedly a “republic”, as is North Korea (officially the “People’s Democratic Republic”), but I doubt any of us would want to live in either place, for much the same reason. In both “republics” the people had/have little or no real say in the government which ruled/rules over them. The “noble families” of Rome controlled the Senate, and we know who really rules North Korea.

Then there’s Classical Athens, which was a pure democracy. Laws were made, and government decisions adopted, by the body of the people acting directly. There was no Parliament, Senate, or Congress, no legislative body deciding these things on behalf of the people.

As Madison says (in Federalist Paper #14): “The true distinction between these forms . . . . is that in a democracy the people meet and exercise the government in person; in a republic they assemble and administer it by their representatives and agents.” That, of course, is how the Electoral College was supposed to function. (But that’s not how it does.)

Gordon P.R. Posner
Tolleson

 

EC could be thing of past

Editor:

Mr. Posner, Original Intent:

You ask that we do not comment until you write additional letters to the editor. Since your opening argument is so weak I chose to ignore your advice. Also for your information, Hamilton was also an advocate for political parties while George Washington was against them, Washington explained his reasoning in his farewell address. Keep in mind that tallying the popular vote would have taken years back in 1790 when Washington was first elected. Your view of this topic is obviously colored by the fact that your candidate was elected, instead of by the simple fact that the people of this country are supposed to select their governmental leaders, not unknown party leaders in a back room.

Your candidate announced in his press conference that the Republicans would announce an improvement on health care that would be “MAGNIFICANT”. He mentioned that there would be lower deductibles and lower costs for health care in general. He also mentioned that one of the major problems with our current system was the pharmaceutical industry. He failed to mention whether the new system would be federally sponsored or run by the insurance industry. He might also want to consider the practice of hospitals charging a fraction for their services when presented by an insurance company compared to individuals for the same service.

Whatever he does to lower healthcare costs will require legislation from congress to accomplish, the same congress that for a lot longer than 8 years has been writing legislation specifically written to increase the profits of the very same industries causing the high cost of healthcare.

Mr. Trump may well become known as the President that helped eliminate The Electoral Congress.

Art Boyle
Buckeye

 

Info omitted in editorial

Editor:

As a former licensed Driving Instructor for 12 years, I read with interest any article about Driving and the Rules of the Road. And, several years ago, I had the privilege of being a Guest Commentator for the WWV on a Editorial similar in nature.

Now, with regards to your Editorial, Drivers training demise results in more laws, in the January 11, 2017 WWV, there are 2 omissions.

You write, “The rules of the road are no longer taught hands on by a trained instructor”.

Indeed, in the Public School System, Drivers Ed is virtually history. And the few schools that still offer this, are swamped with a backlog of students waiting their turn. However, there is another option. And that is a public 3rd Party Driving School. Most schools offer several different courses, including refresher training, not only for the teen driver, but also for spouses and foreign nationals.

Of course, depending on the program and the school, the fees vary greatly. So, just like with anything you buy, it pays to shop around.

Also, you write, “The really lucky ones have parents who weren’t only taught the rule of the road but also taught road etiquette”.

Back when I was teaching, I was usually able to speak with at least one parent while going over the performance of their teen son, or daughter. And, it was amazing at the number of parents who had forgotten much about the “rules and etiquette”, whereas a “trained instructor” lives and works by the rules everyday.

On a personal note, as someone who has been driving for 40 years, I have noticed that common sense and courtesy are two sadly lacking commodities in many drivers today.

Anthony Sanseverino
Litchfield Park

 

At last Gov. Ducey, thank you

Editor:

At long last, Governor Ducey has put something meaningful for our universities in his budget proposal: a tax recapture plan that will help our universities continue to attract talent and perform ground-breaking research.

We’ve had budget cuts for years and our universities have struggled to maintain the highest quality education to prepare students to meet the ever increasing need to be competitive in the marketplace. The tax recapture will allocate approximately $37 million to support vital capital infrastructure at our public universities.

The success of Arizona greatly depends on the success of our state universities. This is a very good plan.

Ben Carroll
Goodyear

 

Do not vote for Jim Cavanaugh

Editor:

Remember the annexation of Mobile? Yes, Mobile was annexed by the city of Goodyear when Jim Cavanaugh was mayor. He pushed for this annexation because of the huge ‘benefit’ Goodyear would receive, real estate taxes from 10,000 homes...that were never built! He was also a real estate businessman at the time, go figure. The only thing the annexation of Mobile resulted in was Goodyear residents paying for police and fire protection for Mobile residents. Jim Cavanaugh quit when he was mayor. Please DO NOT VOTE Jim Cavanaugh as mayor.

Louis Drinovsky
Goodyear

 

The good guys?

Editor:

The good guys? I do not think so.

There he goes again spouting falsehoods just like his idol.

Roy, California and New York are doing just fine. The states that are in such poor condition are Wisconsin, Indiana, Florida, North Carolina, Louisiana, Arizona and other Republican controlled states that believe they can serve their citizen populations by reducing taxes and services.

And if you believe ex-President’s Obama’s policies have been repudiated, have you been paying attention to the concerns of the 20 million people who are facing loss of their health protection? Or reductions in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

The good guys? I do not think so.

Arnold Knack
Avondale

 

CAG fees seem unfair

Editor:

I was noticing on my 2016 Property Tax Statement a fee of $452.10 under Special District Central Arizona GRD (CAG). For 2015 the Property Tax Statement displays $387.86. A $64.24 increase from year 2015. For year 2014 the Property Tax Statement displays $279.50. A $172.60 increase for the last 2 years. This seems kind of high to me. So I did some investigating. The small community that I live in contains roughly 90+ homes. If the average CAG fee is $450 a year that equates to roughly $40,500. Veranda also has a small strip of land (green belt) that has grass and trees in it. The 2016 CAG fee for this is $12,467.40. For 2015 the CAG fee was $10,899.40. An increase of $1568.00. So our small community of 90+ homes is paying for 2016 $52,967.74. That’s seems outrageous to me. I’ve tried calling CAG but they have not returned my calls yet.

Now get this, I did a check on some homes in Litchfield Park (that 3-mile oval with a fence around it) using the Maricopa County Assessor website which is for public use. And I discovered that the homes in that 3-mile oval do not have that Central Arizona GRD fee applied. Nor does the Wigwam or Litchfield Greens.

This to me is kind of odd because the Wigwam and Litchfield Greens have a golf course(s) on their property. And we all know golf course(s) use a lot of water.

So I am writing this so that you readers can investigate for yourself and let’s find out why the high increases each year and why are Litchfield Park and Litchfield Greens residents not paying for this fee even though they have the golf course(s) there in their area.

Bill Alcocer
Litchfield Park

 

Unfairness in reporting

Editor:

When I grew up, I learned the press was informative and always shared the news in a positive and independent manner. Then I moved to the West Valley from New England and learned, by experience, that this is not true of the West Valley View. They are very opinionated and let it be known!

One always knows in advance, by reading your editorials, exactly who and what you support and don’t support. In the edition of January 18th, it’s quite clear you do not support either of the Goodyear Mayoral candidates because of their “appointed then ran/are running for election terms”. Why didn’t you do the same when Rogers and then Weise ran in Avondale? They too were appointed and not only ran and ran, but changed the Charter for election dates so they got yet an additional year of service. But, of course, you supported and stood with them.

With your attitude, no wonder the paper gets thinner and thinner with little real news, except of course, SPORTS! Why would anyone advertise in this type of paper? They too may not get supported.

Betty S Lynch
Litchfield Park

 

Trump will hurt the poor

Editor:

here’s is What i fill About Danald J. Trump. his Name Says it All. he’s Trump the Scrump. And Will Trump On All of us Poor Peopel. What i Mean by That. he wont’s To Take Away The Obama Care. and Send the Imagrants Back Acr oss The border And builden That Stupid Wall To Keep Them from Crossing To The United States To work for Little are Less. And take Away our MediCare An SS i founds & fedral founds that’s what Trump the Srunp want’s To do. i have No Reppect for this Man. None What So Ever As for as i’m Councierend. Trump The Scrump is a Screw ball. him & his Staff And family n all. hillory Cliton Should have Been Our Next Prisedent Of The U.S. Not Trump.

 

Mary Scott
Buckeye

 

Demeanor was disrespectful

Editor:

Bored, uncomfortable, annoyed, disrespectful, all words that I believe best represents President Trumps’ demeanor at the Inauguration Prayer Service on Sunday morning. I am not a sleeve wearing Christian, but I do believe in God and believe he has carried this great country through thick and thin. Especially at this time in our history and with the challenges before us, we certainly need His blessings. The “Faith of Our Fathers” cannot and should not be lost at this critical time in our history.

Don Rerick
Litchfield Park

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Gordon With all due respect you have been spewing nonsense for years in this section . You are a very educated person but you have little common sense and you certainly do not know anything about how middle America thinks. You are always concerned with facts. Try this fact on for size You have a difficult time distinguishing between your rear part and a hole in the ground. Am I wrong ? I do not think so . You are so good at calling anyone who disagrees with you foul and nasty names. What do you think that accomplishes ? Grow up Gordon . Suck it up Trump won and by the time his eight years are over this nation will be much more free and secure than it is today . Progressives are on the wrong side of history . Yes there is a supreme God. His name is Jesus and if you reject him that will be your problem .

Patrick. In my humble opinion I can see the day coming when the progressives will all gather in say North Dakota and succeed from the union. No reason why they should have the beautiful state of California. If progressives formed their own country everyone would be better off. The United States would far better off without any progressives.

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Dear "Mother Maccree":

   Really?  A call for "unity" from one of the most divisive, deceit filled, bigoted, and lying people to pollute these pages?  Your work product has been little but one long campaign of violating the Ninth Commandment by bearing false witness against Obama, Muslims, and just about anyone else who doesn't fit into your partisan and religious worldview.  But now we're supposed to join hands and sing Kumbaya with you?  (Especially after your previous Letter demanding that no Muslims be put into "Security positions", thus violating the No Religious Test Clause of the Constitution - Article 6, Paragraph 3.  But then, you're as much a "pretend" lover of the Constitution as you are a pretend "Christian".)

   Give me a break!

   Oh, and why should Lying Trump get any more "respect" than Obama did after his victories in 2008 and 2012, where he not only won the Electoral Vote by a wider margin than Lying Trump, but also managed to get a majority of the popular vote!  (Ditto for Clinton in 1992.)  I don't recall Republicans and "conservatives" rushing to pledge their support back then.  Turnabout is fair play.

   Of course, the rest of your tirade is just filled with "unifying" talk.  So all "liberals" are intolerant, ignorant, misfits?  I think the Lying Trump Administration will provide final proof those terms better describe what the G.O.P. has become, and what the "conservative movement" is.  I "look forward" to you (and those like you) parading every excuse, evasion, and denial as he marches us further and further down the road which leads to true tyranny!  (Not the paranoid kind you've been falsely accusing Obama of.)

   What we should pray for is that intolerant, ignorant, hypocritical, and delusional people like you would just shut up!  (And I'm willing to support even Roy's rantings, so that's saying something about how bad you are.)

   Just keep on confirming your reservation in Hell!

Gordon Posner's picture

Dear Patrick:

   Was that a typo, or a pun?  (It could be either, given Lying Trump's true religion.)

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Roy,

So what you are saying is, that it was God who intervened in the election, instead of Russia?

That's rich, coming from you.

I guess it is the only way you could square the fact that the man you said was:

On 11/17/15: “Republicans, beware of Donald Trump. . . . Trump is UNELECTABLE . . . . the way he smirks and badmouths other Republicans does nothing but show his ignorance, . . . . Maybe he is a Democratic plant.”

And on 3/23/16 you said: “. . . we have the Donald, whom if elected President may prove to be worse than Obama, . . . . Some have compared him to Hitler . . . . Mussolini is a much better fit. . . . he has little if any spiritual values. . . . I predict if Trump is elected, all evangelicals . . . will also come to have serious buyer’s remorse.”

And on 5/25/16 you said: “. . . the Donald with his obnoxious and deceitful personality . . . . Trump was and still is the least qualified. . . .”

could POSSIBLY become President. It took DIVINE INTERVENTION! hahaha

I guess from hence forth you are going to advocate for the abolishment of the electoral college and/or even eliminate voting in this country entirely, since you are now the sole profit of God on Earth, and can just tell us who God will want as President?

Oh wait, then we wouldn't have a Republic anymore...

Even Rev.Franklin Graham didn't go that far at the inauguration. He came close, but stopped just short of the line that would make him sound just as profetic as you when he said,

"Mr. President, in the Bible, rain is a sign of God's blessing," he said. "And it started to rain Mr. President when you came to the platform."

Oh but wait, I almost forgot... You couldn't possibly be the sole profit of God because Trump beat you to it in his inauguration speech when he proclaimed, toward the end of it,

"We will be protected by God."

But then today he reiterated his desire to bring back torture.

I can't possibly understand why he would feel the need to torture people if he truly felt we would be protected by God.

Maybe you could ask God about that for me the next time he talks to you?

Patrick

porr000's picture

Gordon,

LOL... Perhaps that might make a good reader opinion pole for the WVV next week.

Patrick

Gordon Posner's picture

Dear Patrick:

   Henceforth, should I call him the Hypocritical Factless Wonder?

Gordon Posner's picture

  Please excuse me if I don't respond at present.  I'm working my way to stating what problems I think exist with the Electoral College as it functions now, and what I think the possible solution is.  But it's important to read everything I say before we get to that point.  After all, we have to know were we've been, and how we got here, before we can know where we are, or where to go from there.

   Be patient.

Gordon Posner's picture

Dear Vickie:

   Please translate that into English, so those of us who speak that language can respond?

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